Copyright © 1999-21 PyramydAir.com. Derrick,My next move is to google Emma Peel, you've got me interested:). 25 pump gun officially in 1914, but production really began in 1913–or at least that’s what my information tells me. ... and that includes everything from our BB guns to our safety programs to our customer support. Sale! Receive 10% off your next order when you sign up for PyramydAir.com emails. I will make it a point to visit the main office and find out exactly what their policy is. Does shoot a little to the right, but a tight group. The SAS appears to isolate the forearm screws from the powerplant by having the screws pass through a polymer 'tunnel' sort of like a bushing. and Thanks for the information! The Red Ryder is 350 fps. Hey, wait a minute it really kinda looks like my crosman 1377c air pistol….hey it is……. Still no guarantee of a perfect functioning airgun but increases your odds of ending up with one. I'm 6' this bb gun is comfortable & fun to shoot. Known as the most popular BB gun ever made, its classic design and iconic name has kept this beloved lever-action at the top of wish lists for nearly 75 years. I ship via UPS – both coming and going – and I live in NJ. If it works, I wonder whether it would solve the hold-sensitivity problem with springers (for the off-hand anyway). You are among the handful of authorities on Daisy 25's considering your deep collection of these models and your airgun library that even contains the obscure publication by John Steed. The Red Ryder was revered for his skill with a Winchester rifle. Folks on the Yellow forum as well as on airgunone's forum are already talking about it, but they're hindered by having very few actual rifles in hand. At least I can have anything over 30" shipped without the hassle and costs you have, so I guess I can't complain too much. This air gun review video shows the iconic American Red Ryder BB Gun made famous in "A Christmas Carol". Search for any packaging. I live in O'Fallon, IL just east of St.Louis and had to have my TX200 sent to my brothers house in O'Fallon, MO. The Red Ryder was designed to look like a Winchester lever action rifle which was popular during this time. Also now, if one has a CPL, you can complete the paperwork yourself without picking up a purchase permit. So they stretch the distance out. I wonder if there was an engineer who's heirs are now filthy rich because of that reinforced rib idea? Daisy began making the No. Unless your firearm was very common, you would have to show them how it worked. It seems that some things are missing and some things just don't add up. It included the sword that hung in Steed's office. In addition to the spring air BB guns, Daisy also markets a line of multi-pump pneumatic rifles capable of firing pellets or BBs to the same age group. If I have to return an air rifle I have to go through an FFL dealer who charges from $25 to $45 to handle the shipping forth and back to the company. 25 pump lever reached out to within about six inches of the muzzle. Turn the clock ahead 40 years and here I am 57 years old and just bought a Daisy Red Ryder BB gun. Red Ryder BB guns have been produced since the late 1930s, and values are based on their age as well as their condition. Long and short throw leversIn the beginning, the No. Notice that there are still five grooves on the pump handle. This front sight is on a very early short-throw lever No. I’m giving you the best data I have, but we’re still learning about Daisys. Absolutely zero slop on the weights, once the o-rings are in place. We're doing the manufacturers any favors by accepting things that don't work. I, too, expect my air rifles to be near perfect when they're delivered. Hi, BB,Here's another question for part 2 on the No. I'm surprised that people look at airguns, (or any packaged product), as "kits". BB,I ordered the Gamo Squirrel Field Target and the extra animals. Yeah, yeah! 11 product ratings - Daisy Red Ryder BB Gun Rifle Model 1938B Steel Air Gun Rogers AR WORKS PERFECTLY. –Mike U. Perhaps you have the same problem at your satellite UPS store? And in any event. John Steed knew that, and I want you to keep it in mind, as well. The earliest pumps did not have a reinforcing rib punched into the sheetmetal pump linkage. I hope you get there at a considerably safer speed than 200mph, as cool as the Pantera-gang image still is in my mind's eye…, Okay, I've decided my next purchase is a chrony. Although, pyramyd doesn't carry these rifles, Hatsan is trumpeting what looks to be a fairly elegant shock absorbing system that could be one of those "why didn't I think of that!" Surprisingly, Daisy started off … It is safe for kids to use with adult supervision. I suspect tighter than UPS. I was thinking of buying an airsoft pistol to shoot with my seven year old son. Granted, this was about 5 years ago – but I've received and shipped an airgun as recently as November/December. I wonder if that reinforced rib idea was patented? We have a great online selection at the lowest prices with Fast & Free shipping on many items! ttomtucker, 10 years ago That's right, you have a nice Red Ryder BB gun. I suggest trading up to a Daisy 880($44) or Crosman 2100($59) if you want a more powerful BB gun 0 2 While I don't expect to find a new rifle under the tree this year, I'll soon have one coming out of my shop. I'll keep your request in mind but if I were you I would read the internet. First of all the front sight is mounted on the front of the barrel, but I'm not even sure if it is metal. Also, you have to bear in mind that Daisy never threw away anything. This feature went away by 1916. Reinforcing ribI told you this was going to be detailed. I believe it says 177 or such on it. One of them, the one about the Daisy No. We've been enjoying a winter wonderland at home since Friday, and it looks like more weather is on the way. This will be an interesting series. I'll have to get out my first adult air gun and see if I can be competative with her, Ms Diana 35. The pump seems to be shorter than 4" and yet I can't find no soldered seam on the underside of the barrel. I wonder if the gun laws apply the same to them? This article reminds me of the seemingly endless variations of Walther and Weirauch target airguns. Stores will frequently pay you less than it's worth. Thought about getting a regular Red Ryder & making my own stock. So far I'm covered for the last year which is enough for me (providing there is no auto drop-off). Sometimes all the person wants is a quick answer. Daisy Model F16 Slingshot KIT $ 12.98. Do you get your money back? Its a fun gun when it works, but requires the owner be willing to tinker with it and be able to work on it. Or it could be complete marketing gimcrackery. You have a legitimate right to complain. I have a daisy red Ryder gun and I’m not sure how to date it. Talk about an unnecesary expense! This is a BB gun that is great for plinking, but not for accuracy shooting. The Gamo field targets are too thin to be hit with powerful airguns. What? It's hard to make out. What about Emma Peel? Daisy Outdoor Products started making the Red Ryder BB gun in 1938. Adult Red Ryder kit with two Red Ryder BB guns ; Comes with 1 adult size & 1 youth size Red Ryder BB gun ; Perfect for use in a mentor / mentee situation ; Lever action with blade & ramp front sight & / adjustable rear sight; Shoots BBs 350 feet per second ; Adult Length/Weight: 36.75” / 2.95 lbs. I can't get past BB's reference to John Steed. Check the barrel of the BB gun for any stamped markings. Most kits come with all the parts necessary from the factory they just need to be fitted/refitted correctly to work really well. I wonder where Daisy got the idea? It may have been made in NY, but that really seems odd. However, if you want to ship something out yourself the rules are different -worse. I'm sure its not the first time you've heard this, but please consider a comprehensive historical account of "air power" and "air rifle applications". One of those so-simple-take-me-for-granted ideas that are so effective. And I pretty routinely blast steel spinners, paddles, splitters, etc. moments. I certainly don't. Anything else (.22 or above 700) must go through an FFL, who charges for it. Merry Christmas, and safe travels to that winter wonderland of yours. Red Ryder BB Gun Our first gun is still a classic for all ages. Cross received his Bachelor of Arts in music theory and composition from Azusa Pacific University. While the adjustable front sight is a good indicator of an early No. Make sure the barrel is straight, and if possible, test the rifle to see if it functions. The patch runs from the beginning to the end of the compression chamber, including the spring tube that’s always behind the piston. BB,For your field target answer can you give me an idea of what you mean by powerful? Among them is to learn about airguns that usually work well "out of the box" and the fixes for those that sometimes don't. That tootsie roll pump handle model sure brings back memories. The experts like Driskill, Blackwell, Frakor, etc. exists that out of the box never has problems. Last night I spoke to a gun collector who bought a collection of guns and swords that were used on The Avengers television show. Quite a spread…yet all seem to be doing the job intended. 's posts themselves (at https://www.pyramydair.com/blog/feed/atom/), but it took me a bit of digging to reverse-engineer the correct URL for following the comments with a reader, so maybe I should share. If it's a Daisy Red Ryder then they have been in production since 1939 up to today. Daisy Navy Blue Cap $ 14.99 $ 9.99. BB,Whenever I see articles like this from you, I think you really ought to write a book "BB's Big Book of BB guns and Air Rifles". Regarding David's point about comments to obscure past posts… I don't know how other folks prefer to follow the blog, but I enjoy using a feed reader – Google Reader in my case. UPS will not ship any gun part unless it comes from an FFL. This is the long-throw lever, made in 1927 and after. I tried to return a rifle scope to PA and UPS wouldn't do it until I fibbed and said it was a telescope. According to a Daisy release, the special edition will feature “engraving on the forearm and a commemorative medallion in the stock, in addition to all of the features that made this gun the all-time No. The typical pre/early teenager just starting out in the shooting sports hardly fits this description. Year Short Description 1938 Daisy Started working on the Red Ryder 1939 A formal licensing agreement was signed on Oct. 6, 1939 There are also kits that can be purchased from the factory that require aftermarket parts that can significantly affect the initial investment but the end result is an airgun that can be compared to others costing much more than the total cost now in your airgun. I'd love to see the air gun that can shoot a 14.3 gram pellet , I appreciate the lesson, however, it leaves me with a blond headed feeling. As I have mentioned in the Red Ryder report, all BB guns of this era had significantly stronger mainsprings than they do today. I remember shooting frogs at a pond in New Jersey when I was a teenager. Pyramyd Air did sell Hatsans at one time, but the guns went overboard. With the comments we’ve had recently about the 25 versus the Red Ryder, I know this will appeal to more than just the hard-core collectors. Vince,I have not tried that. Leading the way and becoming Daisy's number one seller was the Model 1894 "Spitten Image" of the Model 94 Winchester. (Now this supports the 12 ft/lb restriction of some countries as imposed because they consider that 12 ft/lb is powerful.). Red Ryder was a comic book character who also appeared in many films in the 1940s to 1950s. This Special Edition Daisy BB Gun features the traditional fancy Red Ryder logo engraving on the left side of handsome wood stock. Wow, what a load of stuff. When it comes to air rifles, the Daisy Red Ryder is America's Sweetheart. 25. I subscribe to the comments feed using the URL: http://www.blogger.com/feeds/11153406/comments/default/. Last night I 'tested' my 3 rifles (Avanti 853c, Slavia 630 and XS-B9), all rated as 500fps.My test was a heavy notebook, taped so it was tightly closed.Using the same pellet in all 3 rifles (RWS Superpoints), the Avanti penetrated 38 pages, the XS 59 and the CZ 67. Jeremy,I can understand your frustration. I've never noticed anything coming back at me or bouncing off into the woods. It was certainly made by 1927. The sight is spot-welded on the tube, as it would be for the remainder of the production run through 1986. If you trace the company’s roots all the way back you find yourself back in 1880 at the Plymouth Iron Windmill Co. It's one thing to have lower quality, (It's OK to have more plastic, lesser finishes, less robust wearing components, less durability), it's another thing altogether to get something that doesn't work as intended. I found my Red Ryder many years ago in an antique store on the boardwalk in Myrtle Beach NC. Red Ryder BB Gun History Page This Chronology of the Daisy Red Ryder was created to help identify the approximate year your Red Ryder was produced. Your toy might have been more valuable last year than this year. Cocking effort of 75 pounds with no more velocity than a Gamo Big Cat. Once you complete the paperwork, you only need to mail in the State's copies.The safety inspections were always a joke anyway. Vince,I don't understand it either. If it isn't, it goes right back, even if I could easily fix it myself. There is no reasonable way to make the Daisy Red Ryder more powerful. After filming, one of the guns went to Peter Billingsley (Ralphie), one to the film archives, and the rest to production team members. or Best Offer +$15.00 shipping. Toys that come new-in-box or with a box frequently fetch more. Daisy is best known for their inexpensive youth BB guns, modeled after lever-action rifles. Alot of good info here, but did you clear dating Daisy with Little Abner? This happened in 1915. My reasoning is that you are probably the only one who sees those comments whereas, in a forum format, everyone would see them. Back in 1914, Daisy was not able to fold the outer tube of any of their BB guns sufficiently airtight so the compression chamber was sealed. The earliest guns did not have a reinforcing rib on the pump linkage, but in 1915 it was added. But we have brought hundreds of new readers into the fold by inviting them to the modern blog page. In any case, thanks for the time you spend writing the blog and responding to comments. I agree 100% with Jeremy's opinion of AirForce product. Number of bids and bid amounts may be slightly out of date. This lever action carbine has taught marksmanship and gun safety to generations. my two cents, (working for a manufacturer that certainly intends to sell stuff that works)…. Powerful or not is in the eye of the beholder. They suggest after stripping to give the wood a good wipe down with laquer thinner to remove the wax so you don't have finish problems. The Daisy Company began registering guns in 1952. it has a medal on the right side of the stock and the Red Ryder logo on the left. Sale! Take a 14.3 grain (not gram) pellet to the energy calculator and determine how much energy it develops at 600 f.p.s. You can see how it slides, yet the metal is so tight that the blade doesn’t move once it’s in place. The laws on purchase of a handgun have changed in Michigan. I was kinda proud of figuring that out, but I bet a bunch of veterans will reply with a much more straightforward way of finding that feed, or otherwise following the comments. There’s more, too, so stay tuned for Part 2. There isn't a perfect airgun. Don't be afraid to wait for the best offer. I view airguns as kits. It is used to give the stripper some body and stick to the item. Nobody combines the facts and a passion for the subject like you do, and these articles are a pure pleasure to read. Six Ralphie rifles were produced for the film. Luck of the draw. So, we must be careful not to invent a new type of variation on the evidence of one gun. I live in Michigan, and would love to get nice 10 meter air pistol, but everything under 30 inches in overall length (except smooth bore BB guns) are treaded the same as powderburner pistols, needing registration to purchase. My experiences with one Talon SS include a safety which would trip the sear when disengaged (major safety hazard), soft metal fire control parts which quickly wore to a rounded edge that wouldn't hold the sear at all (another major safety hazard) – and no, I did not disassemble it until after it malfunctioned -, tanks that dump air depending on which way the bolt is locked (to the left vs to the right), sights that won't fit the mounting rail, etc…. Nonetheless, your article is filled with caveats. If you would like to purchase the item in person then please call ahead to make sure the store you're travelling to has it in stock (Our main distribution warehouse is located at the Exeter branch). Combining the two together produces the results: 11.43 = powerful. Most of the colors are not what I'd want on an R10 (not so bad on the Edge! Do they make you promise to send it back? I've been playing wiht the idea of getting my CPL just to more easily buy an air pistol. Real field targets are about twice as thick. She will determine when it was made and give you a collector's opinion on its condition. Yes,that is an adapted BR-V target. BB,I have a 12 gram CO2 cartridge in my air pistol. Some younger kids had difficulty pumping the gun because of this, so in 1927, Daisy introduced what’s called the long-throw lever. PS Chuck, I don't have much of a choice in .177 guns to shoot in the matches you've been talking about. Any gun that doesn’t have the patch is a late 1915 or newer gun. My .22 Marauder shoots around 900fps – this I consider powerful.
Everyone wants to see a Daisy Christmas Wish Red Ryder BB Gun under the tree. Merry Christmas, everyone, and Thank You for all the help with stock refinishing! The Red Ryder is a "radio cowboy" from the golden-days of radio. This auction features a Vintage LOCKING LEVER& assembly SCREW for DAISY Model 1938B RED RYDER BB Gun Made of plastic In good pre-owned condition I have other parts for DAISY Model 1938B RED RYDER BB Gun and will combine shipping Please view photos and ask any questions you may have prior to bidding Winning bidder to pay $4.99 shipping and handling within the continental U.S. lower 48 … On the right side is an embedded working compass and a deep-set engraved sundial (a gnomon is included). I have a small group of volunteers who watch these old comments. It was a combination of the Red Ryder and the Buck Jones Special. I see that technique used in so many places to day from kitchen utensils to toys. I wonder if it would be best for comments made after the first week a blog is posted were redirected to a forum type format with a reference to the log they are addressing. 25, the next feature is even more discriminating. Don't sell your gun to a store if you want top-dollar. Add to cart. 14 Questions View all stephanie bryant It also has no reinforcement rib on it. The Daisy Red Ryder features a manual safety, adjustable sights and holds enough BBs for a whole day of shooting. The target itself is back ordered but I got the extra animals delivered. BB guns are no longer considered "toys." A man by the name John Steed set about documenting 25s and all their characteristics in the mid 1990s, and he published a small booklet of facts so dry they will put most non-collectors to sleep. The raised piece of metal under the pump handle guide rod is a soldered patch that denotes an early gun. I also expect expect items sold as "finished goods" to work right out of the box, period. But since they DO carry it under another name, I guess I could look at it. 25 is adjustable from side to side. Purchase a recent toy-collecting book. Bring your gun to a professional. Hopefully, this in-depth review of the Daisy 1938 Red Ryder BB gun has helped you decide if you want to buy one for your kids. BB,Politics of sporter classes aside, the Edge looks interesting. Some day I may test that. Uh, you guys are talking about what again? By 1915, all these features had changed into something else. I would have appreciated it very much if this would have been disclosed in PA's description. Bought the grandkids a couple of bb guns. At any rate, I'd sure love to have an unbiased opinion on it from someone trusted by all in the airgun community. They want to know which version of the gun they have. The directions for the extra animals say not to use the targets closer than 25 yards because pellets could fragment and hit the shooter. I think that's why Kevin recommended MEK (which I now have). I zoned out for a minute. Some younger kids had difficulty pumping the gun because of this, so in 1927, Daisy introduced what’s called the long-throw lever. Merry Christmas to you and Mrs. BB, and everyone else here. But the black nickel finish went away in late 1914/early 1915; so together with the patch, the two point to a very early No. The site doesn't say it anymore but I thought this was an excellent requirement: Sometime during the match time frame, which is around two weeks or so, you decide this is the day I'm going to shoot, you shoot, and you accept and record whatever score you get that session. The dependable design and tradition of the Red Ryder make this piece America's favorite. Guns without it were made in 1915 and earlier. Oops, Pyramid does carry the Winchester 850×2, which is a rebranded Hatsan 95 SAS. The state restrictions are nuts. Hi, folks. Springfield Armory M1A Underlever Pellet Rifle, Powered by WordPress. When Daisy learned how to fold metal and retain an airtight seal, the barrel patch was eliminated. I've now used the stripper three times, and it's still pulling a bit of stain out each time. Sorry for the misinformation in my above comment. So, today I’m going to explain a few of the visual cues that are used to refine the dates of these guns. A multi-part series you can point Daisy 25 owners to so they can date their own guns. BB Gun Repair Daisy Red Ryder model repair . If you don't like to tinker it becomes paramount to buy an airgun with an above average reputation made by a company with a great track record of standing behind their products and from a reputable dealer with a good return policy. However, the length of the lever throw helps to date the gun. I don'y have a beech stock but I do have some nice beech boards I could send you if you want to try things out. Red Ryder BB Gun Review [2020 update] The Daisy Red Ryder BB gun has been around for a very long time and it’s still available and selling strong. Pay close attention to how many chips or dents are in the rifle. I think it adds to the fun and the challenge. What is likely the most-famous BB gun ever made — the Daisy Red Ryder — will be reissued in 2020 as a special-edition commemorative to celebrate its 80th anniversary.. Because it is not particularly practical to sell real weapons to children, toy makers instead produced cap guns and BB guns. So, as long as I stay under 11.43 ft/lb I can shoot, reasonably safely, with safety glasses of course, at my field targets at 10m. The front sight on this 1913 version of the No. at ~10yds. Cardboard boxes shouldn't be much trouble. This is the short-throw lever, made in 1927 and before. In the past week I've read about some guns with problems and owners that will never again buy a (fill in the blank) airgun. Add to cart. Jan,I always try to comment on every blog at least once plus click the box that sends me emails whenever someone else comments. Keep them out of reach of children. They still plated their guns with silver nickel, but a hot bath blue was the preferred finish, staring in 1914. Time left 4d 23h left. Unfortunately, it also gets some pretty stupid comments from me. Hamilton ended up patenting an all-metal, v… Sorry, still thinking about Emma Peel (Diana Rigg) in that black leather jumpsuit with all the zippers…Remember Steed's sword cane? I also don't know if blogger has a auto drop-off after a certain amount of time. These simple smoothbore, spring-air BB guns fire at low velocities, and are marketed to children ages 10 and over.Something like no-111 Model 40 or 1938b both coming and going – and I was at. Ryder make this piece America 's Sweetheart it included the sword that in! Determine the value for yourself from an FFL call a local hobby or antique store to see if gun. 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